I gave one to my dad as a gift many years agothe knife I gave him is like a razor. I knew your research was fairly extensive and that you had more info than I could ever find in a short timethat's why I linked to your thread from KF. They come all sorts of ways. Yes! Original Price 2,758,374 by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:48 am, Post Original Price 4,733,728 And the sales receipt is proof of age. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:04 am, Post All have positives all have negatives oh to decide i still have the one i bought back in the '70's i wore every where butt work. 1,435,714, 2,610,345 Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams Original Price $150.00 Thanks for all the information! Original Price $164.99 There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.. Consignment Program Packing Your Knives. This traditionally Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. I guess the extra weight of the brass piece on the spine of the blade helps. Hey zzyzzogeton thanks for all the info its so hard to find good info on early Bowies but I think I have a correction for you, on Western Bowie #5 Version 1 stainless steel Bowie - It should be blade marked not guard marked WESTERN BOWIE on top of STAINLESS STEEL on top of U.S.A. markings on only one side. I had put together this table that I'm going to post but not sure how it'll show up. The W49 is the 9 1/2" "V44" type with the immense S-curve guard and laminated rosewood slab handles. You'll feel like an O Timber Rattler Whispering Winds Bowie Knife 19.98 Timber Rattler captures the beauty of the southwest with this handsome Whispering Winds bowie knife. "Leather handled Bowie". While many of the items on Etsy are handmade, youll also find craft supplies, digital items, and more. I was so ticked at the time I never tried chopping with it again. You must be logged in to contact sellers. That makes it a pretty serious chopper in my book. Sale Price $120.00 The knife in the box above looks dull due to the original preservative still being on the knife after 40+ years. Original Price 4,186,946 Thanks! The ones brought home were kept, or given to some relative. but it has never failed me. Charlie. That helps narrow it down! Very few guys that I can recall actually had theirs. Buy It Now. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. 0 CART. (45% off), Sale Price 2,955,665 Although it is not as pleasing to the eye as the wooden handled Western, it does have many of the same features as the V-44 pattern of old. 1,722,414, 2,460,591 by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:40 pm, Post 91/4"LONG BLADE,TOTAL KNIFE LENGTH IS 14 1/2", BLADE WIDTH IS 2" & WEIGHS 1# 14 OZ IN SHETH. The online community of knife collectors, A Knife Family Forged in Steel, 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. 1,708,876, 1,898,817 The one that I have with a couple of bends in the blade came from me chopping a couple branches off from a dead piece of tree many years ago. Camillus closed it doors for the last time in April of 2007. Welcome and have a great stay lots to see and read around here. 2,359,467, 4,289,941 Original Price 4,740,933 It may not display this or other websites correctly. It is guard marked:WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. (10% off), Sale Price 4,617,980 Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. I had a new one in the box a few years ago and let it go too cheap for 100.00 at a gun show so I could purchase something else. 1,812,130, 7,248,225 Boy, I'll say! Both have stacked leather handles, and 8" Marble's Ideal style blades. 1,912,315, 2,249,754 It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! I have always thought that the Western Bowie with the bigger handle bolts, thick handle, W49 guard marks and ringed sheath was post Vietnam but then came across this on ebay. Original Price 4,876,847 (25% off), Sale Price 1,218,966 A couple years ago I bought a Coleman era W49. No, I never wrote it up. It took me about thirty minutes to get halfway through the log. Western started making stainless versions of some of their knives as early as 1967. I believe that it provides a fairly accurate chronology of the Western W49 Bowie. 3,263,547, 4,662,315 hardwood handles,leather sheath. (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 The real surprise to me was the Case Bowie chopping all the way through in fifteen minutes. My grandfather carried this one for 50 years: You must log in or register to reply here. NOTHING MADE IN CHINA!!! Buy now. While the official end of the Vietnam war is April 30 1975 The day the North Vietnamese entered the U.S. Embassy grounds. The Bowie knife also played a prominent role in western lore. The sheath for this knife is also unique in my opinion. Engraved on brass guard CON EVANS and on the other side of guard CHICO. Let me know. Top Rated Seller. Shipping policies vary, but many of our sellers offer free shipping when you purchase from them. It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. It may not display this or other websites correctly. (70% off), Sale Price 2,684,911 Stuart Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Robert E. Lee Prestige Edition Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Battle of Gettysburg Bowie Knife $99.95 Details Stonewall Jackson Bowie Knife $99.95 Details P.G.T. If you want a big bowie with similar features and you don't want to pay a premium for what has become a collector's item, consider the Ontario made Marine Rader Bowie. If you are not familiar with that wood, it is in the same class as white oak. Original Price 2,460,591 All About Pocket Knives is a knife related resource center for buying, selling, researching, and discussing all things knives, Post Good news! 2,733,744, 4,205,911 You can see where some of the plating is peeling with age and use. This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. here's a pic of the western along side an old trailmaster and recon. The letters used start with "A" for 1977 and go on to "0" for 1991 when Camillus bought the rights to Western at auction. Original Price $297.22 Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. (45% off), Sale Price 2,438,424 Still has factory edge. I'm confused. +C $35.71 shipping estimate. The knife he left us, which bears his name, ranks with the Kentucky rifle and the Colt Peacemaker as an. Learn more. This will differ depending on what options are available for the item. I regret not getting one when they were still being made. As you can see it also has the small pins in the handle. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. Captcha failed to load. It differs from the W49 by the stainless steel used in the blade and the synthetic stag material they used for the handle. This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. This post is reserved to hold future oddballs/commemorative/special editions as they pop up in the future. I did some chopping today, on a piece of maple that fell down in a storm a month ago. Western Outlaw Bowie Knife by Timber Rattler It is 17 inches long and is almost 0.5 inches wide. I don't consider it to be bad. But I feel like your chart is about as accurate a depiction as one is likely to find. 1 In Stock $34.97 More Info For Sale By: GSPTOPDOG Coleman Western 954 Double Lock with box and pouch (1989) 1 In Stock $70.00 More Info For Sale By: LDF Knives Western USA S-532 "A" Wood Westlock Lockback 1977 1 In Stock $95.00 More Info For Sale By: Knives Templar It is stamped "WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. 2,068,966, 6,896,552 Check out our awesome collection now. I've got several W49 bowies, the oldest dating to around the mid 60s. Thin edges can chop without damage, you just have to keep the blade straight so the force of the swing is aligned with the edge. Original Price 6,157,389 We've got Bowie knives of all shapes and sizes at Knife Depot. Would be great for batoning as it had a very heavy blade of about 6 inches long. The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:03 pm, Post See the weather for Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, IT with the help of our live and local weather cameras. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Original Price 7,118,227 Original Price 3,029,557 As far as a real chopper goes, my W49 out performed my Spyderco/Hossum Forester in side by side testing. Original Price $400.00 Yes! Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? Charlie, http://img11.No_outside_hosting.us/g/cblziwcgkkgrhqyokpme0un.jpg/. That is really the one question I have about the knife. Thick edges annoy me. There are two variations of guard marked W49's. My biggest concern with their "chopping" ability is the very thin edge. Western W49 Fixed Blade Bowie Survival Knife USA Leather Sheath Vintage: $260.00. Description. See the top reviewed local furniture stores and showrooms in Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italy on Houzz. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. Used one for years for yardwork, camping, etc till I discovered machetes. He designed it as a hunting knife and gave it to James for protection after his brother had been shot in a fight. January 6, 2011 in EDGED WEAPONS, hi i want to get a vietnam western bowie knife, but not sure how to tell any differences if there is with them if anyone can help me it would be very helpful. Vietnam | English (US) | (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. (70% off), Sale Price $184.50 (20% off), Sale Price 2,370,466 You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. The exception being that instead of the word Bowie on the pile side it would say "W49." Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife 29.99 This Timber Rattler Outlaw bowie knife is one powerful full-tang beast that every manly man needs. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked:WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. I am trying to decide between the Western, Case, Ontario, or the new Remington. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. Original Price 4,437,574 It didn't have much heft. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:46 am, Post Nothing to do with the Western Bowies, but included for posterity since people keep calling the Bushman a "V44"- These knives (the #18 and clones) are incorrectly called the V44 Marine Raider Bowie knife. After pulling out his Bowie knife, Mick exclaimed, "THAT'S a knife!" There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. Value for money . You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. Not that I advocate getting a knife for the sole purpose of making it collect dust in plain view. Designed by Jim Bowie and fabricated first by Jesse Clifft, the almost 10-inch-long blade had a flat spine and no guard between its blade and handle. Original Price $121.00 Rare WW11 large Bowie knife made by Jack Soler from Allentown PA was a U.S. Navy Seabee during World War 11. I still havent actually put my hands on one of the W49s with the chrome plating. (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. For Sale: Custom & Semi Production Knives (Dealer), KnifeMaker's Market: Knives & More for Sale, Wanted: Knifemaker / Craftsman / Related Services, Busse / Swamprat / Scrapyard Knives For Sale, For Sale: Traditionals, Slipjoints, "Old Timey", International (Non-US) For Sale & Trade Forums, https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/new-members-please-read-this-what-is-my-knife-worth.904093/. In 1838 Rezin P. Bowie, brother of Alamo hero James Bowie claimed that he made the first Bowie knife while the Bowies lived in Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. The cv recon/tm seem about twice as thick. Original Price $121.68 Because of our large inventory (over 10,000 knives in stock), your order will ship quickly - often the same day. 1,896,552, 3,448,276 (25% off), Sale Price 2,603,550 And you are spot-on when you allude to "gray areas." They all have heavy use and both have the sheaths replaced after they rotted away. Original Price 6,157,389 i don't need to use it too much. My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. Original Price 4,881,657 1,666,256, 3,029,557 As a bowie knife, this was designed for hunting and survival, but as a high-priced Buck knife with a few dozen handle materials to choose from and the option to add a display box and an engraving it makes a pretty stellar gift and display piece. thank joe, Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. I started looking into this subject a couple of years ago. Sign up for a new account in our community. $123.74, $164.99 $77.64, $91.34 If you don't have an account, create one here. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. You are using an out of date browser. 1,097,291, 1,995,074 I did it out of personal curiosity when I got my Forester. Now I see them going for very good money. No chips or cracks in handles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Knife_Company. Who has the knowledge for this situation? 2,684,911, 4,881,657 $2295 SIGNED WW11 FIGHTING KNIFE. It is blade marked:WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code (1977). Its something for me to shoot for. Average depth of cut with the same swing was almost a half inch. (15% off), Sale Price 2,733,744 I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. Click Buy it now or Add to cart and proceed to checkout. The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . 3.2 3.2 . The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". In that year, the company was sold to Coleman, becoming Coleman-Western. In 1991 the rights to the Western brand was auctioned to the Camillus Knife Co. . The ONLY differences between versions #2, #3 and #4 are in stamp location(s). At least as far as I've been able to determine. I have two other knives my cousin gave me in 1969 when he returned from Vietnam. Sale Price 1,775,148 The other three were heavly pitted from the jungle. I didn't really like it so I gave it to my brother. I know a thin edge can chop without damage if used properly, but I cant guarantee I my form will always be perfect when using a "chopper". The USMC Rader Battalions of WW2 made this pattern their own and therefore famous. Your knife was made in 1986. I have been trying for some time to compile dating info and as you probably know there are some gray areas. Made in the USA!!! 2,020,725, 3,367,876 The unique design of the blade gave it its power and its name thanks to James Bowie, a hero of the Alamo gave it its prestige. While it may not be everyone's self-defense weapon of choice, a Bowie knife is an excellent hunting knife. i still have mine its a hellava knife!! I also believe that the guard marked "W49's" would have been made during the 1970's but prior to 1977 when the alphabetical date code started. 2,135,468, 7,118,227 (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 Powered by Invision Community. Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. Boker 1969 Z28-Damast Liner Lock Knife Blue Aluminum (3.15" Damascus) MSRP: $594.95 Our Price: $446.21 Preorder Down Payment: $5.00 Add to Cart Vargo Knives Sobata 398 Frame Lock Knife Titanium (3" Satin Sintered Ti) Our Price: $225.00 Add to Cart Jake Hoback Perseverance Fixed Blade Knife Black G-10 (6.1" Stonewash) Our Price: $365.00 Add to Cart IMHO its hard to link gear made after 1972 to being In Country without being attached to some strong provenance. $120.00, $200.00 $75.30, $188.24 In addition, their handsome appearance makes them favorites for collectors.